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#1 Re: Southern Miss » "Official" USM vs ULM thread » 2017-09-16 17:45:41

southern miss slacker wrote:

why does ULM have shark teeth on their shoulders

Ode to the P-40 Warhawk planes used in WWII

#2 Re: Southern Miss » Img radio. You suck » 2017-09-16 16:58:02

99beers wrote:

Local 105.1 jackafrica

Sounds like a 105.1 issue, rather than IMG issue. Not surprising coming from Jackson station though.

#3 Re: Southern Miss » "Official" USM vs ULM thread » 2017-09-16 16:50:22

Southern Miss (1-1) v Ouachita Parish Junior College (0-1)

ESPN3 for the game thread (WatchESPN App available)
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3123781

Southern Miss IMG Sports Network for John Cox's buttery smooth voice /s
https://tunein.com/radio/Southern-Miss- … k-s230329/

Wiki Link for the Thread Title Reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universit … _at_Monroe

Lagniappe:
Picasso Nelson looks like he's out for the season.
Julian Allen (TE) isn't dressed out tonight according to Munzly.
Uniforms look nice (wish they had a matte black option for the helment): https://twitter.com/USMGoldenEagles/sta … 3574002689

#4 Re: Southern Miss » Img radio. You suck » 2017-09-16 16:48:57

Local station or TuneIn internet connection? I've had the show online here for the past half hour.

#5 Re: Southern Miss » Wacky way to increase revenue » 2017-09-12 19:39:31

beagle wrote:

I seem to remember McGillis tweeting about it awhile back. He's not here anymore, of course.

Their fans definitely care about it more than we do. Go on their Bulldog Bytes board. They REALLY want to beat us this year.

I do like them because they are culturally similar to us and they actually bring fans to Hattiesburg, but I don't really consider them a rival at all. They don't get my blood boiling like a Memphis, Houston, ECU, or even Tulane do.

Gimme the Black and Blue Bowl and games with ECU again. I'm glad that the series with Tulane was scheduled especially since I just moved to New Orleans and work with a bunch of Tulane grads. Hopefully they bring the bell trophy back too.

I do, however, hope that the games with LA Tech can keep being competitive and can eventually turn into a rivalry.

#6 Re: Southern Miss » Wacky way to increase revenue » 2017-09-12 19:15:13

beagle wrote:
admin wrote:
southern miss slacker wrote:

What I don't get is why they don't and never have used The Mickey Spagnola quote..."don't fight southern miss, always choose southern miss, no matter how hard you fight, those folks will fight harder"....that is original to us and only us. And that shit needs to be over the door when the football team goes onto the field.

Too busy yammering on about CUSA and our supposed rivalry with LA Tech, I guess.


Man, that shit drives me crazy. The "RIVALRY IN DIXIE!!!1!111" is a bunch of malarkey. It's been pushed by Tech fans and USM administrators, mostly.

I get the older fans that think it's some sort of a rivalry (we played almost every year in the 60s and 70s), but to anyone younger than 50 .... no, just no.

I haven't really seen it pushed by our athletics department as much as Tech's department does. USM has refused (at least on social media) to call it the Rivalry In Dixie the past few years. Calling it the "Battle for the West" in 2015 when it decided the winner of the Western Division and then just marketing it as the blackout game last year.

#7 Re: Southern Miss » Wacky way to increase revenue » 2017-09-12 12:04:12

Traditions happen. Sometimes they're necessarily forced. Sometimes they come naturally. Sometimes they're forced until someone thinks of them as being natural

As someone who entered into university 5-10 years after these newer traditions ("To The Top" after first downs, Black-Gold, etc.) were established, they just seemed natural and not at all forced to me. There were even newer traditions that students seemed to start, or if not start, pick up and become more popular whenever I was there (exclaiming the final word of the Alma Mater, "Halls!"- this got more popular in the "Tyndall Town" basketball student section era; the, since dead tradition, of the tifo banners that the Brazilian student would make, etc.). I mean heck, some students started picking up the phrase "Eagsby90" or "Eagsby[Insert number]" after beating Kentucky last year (yeah, I know stolen phrase)

#8 Re: Southern Miss » Wacky way to increase revenue » 2017-09-12 08:35:20

tg300 wrote:
USMstang wrote:

Because of the history, it's actually pretty cool.  I'm sure there's some other stuff we could be yelling but it's the only damn thing most of the crowd does in unison.

Wrong.

They groan in unison every time Keon goes into the game.

Kid is a great athlete.  I wonder if he can play soccer.

In all seriousness, I see him either getting moved to another position (like WR or CB- even though both of those positions are deep). Or transferring out next year to a CC or FCS/DII school. Kwandra has the starting spot this year and next year (forseeably) and Marcelo will be vying for that starting spot after Kwandra graduates.

#9 Re: Southern Miss » Who's going to the game Saturday? » 2017-09-07 11:21:13

Wife and I are season ticket holders. We'll be there.

#10 Re: Southern Miss » Some requested features... » 2017-09-06 18:35:54

admin wrote:
southern miss slacker wrote:

I really don't understand that Rep crap. are some of you so immature to actually care about something that childish?

I think a few people care about their own rep, and that's kind of pathetic. Other people find it interesting to see who gets upvoted / downvoted, and that's a little more understandable, I guess.

That's why I suggested the Upvote/downvote system like on Reddit. It's anonymous. But it allows for users to see what people are viewing as positive or negative.

#11 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance Not Just USM Issue » 2017-09-06 13:25:40

TheChosenOne wrote:

"But, if the people on here are able to formulate a good idea or good plan of action written down and organized"

I'll just assume you're new to this group

Not really new. Just not as cynical yet. Working on it though.

#12 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance Not Just USM Issue » 2017-09-06 11:34:37

southern miss slacker wrote:
AEIOUSometimesWhy wrote:
southern miss slacker wrote:

you'll come to a stupid message board and vent but not one of you have the balls to go see someone about this face to face. many of you are not alumni anyway. many of you are not season ticket holders, EC, or even go to games. you say you care, but you won't do anything.

Well, what should we do about it then? We've all been beating a dead horse by venting online, so we all get it. We all understand the problems the university faces and what to do next. What do you (or any of us) think our next plan of action or next step should be as USM supporters/alumns/EC members/etc.? (Dead serious, not a dig at you)

you send emails to the AD and tell him you ain't giving a dime no more and no season tickets to anything until you see a real effort to fix this shit. you get about 10-15 people to do that and they will stand up and take notice. bitching on a message board about this does nothing. it's just stupid really. you want action? then take action. you weak ass little bitches.

Enlightening discourse, professor. So basically do what other "more influential" backers do now. No more giving to the university to help fund efforts in fixing the problems so that the university can turn around and fix the problems with less funding given by its "supporters" (also increasing the attendance problem which began this whole thread). You're right, money talks. But hollow, "You fix this or I stop doing this" threats with no offer of a solution is what gave us the Ellis Johnson problem and is what also discourages people from speaking up because, they're not that monetarily influential. 

Now I do agree with one point you made- "bitiching on a message board does nothing.. take action". That is a given. I don't believe that there is any administrator in the nation who goes on to message boards to get the opinion of the constituents. But, if the people on here are able to formulate a good idea or good plan of action written down and organized, get the support of those who are on here (outside of anonymous aliases), get more support from other university backers, present it to the administration/athletics department, then something may happen because more voices are stronger than the one. Threats only work for so long and if you have certain clout (and make you no better than my generation's whining, complaining, and hollow "demands"), organized and defined communicated efforts have more effectiveness to get the desired outcome done. And if that doesn't work, back to the drawing board- but at least we have an organized lobbying effort started.

#13 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance Not Just USM Issue » 2017-09-06 11:05:03

southern miss slacker wrote:

you'll come to a stupid message board and vent but not one of you have the balls to go see someone about this face to face. many of you are not alumni anyway. many of you are not season ticket holders, EC, or even go to games. you say you care, but you won't do anything.

Well, what should we do about it then? We've all been beating a dead horse by venting online, so we all get it. We all understand the problems the university faces and what to do next. What do you (or any of us) think our next plan of action or next step should be as USM supporters/alumns/EC members/etc.? (Dead serious, not a dig at you)

#14 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance Not Just USM Issue » 2017-09-06 10:55:58

USMstang wrote:
AEIOUSometimesWhy wrote:

Cyc, I don't disagree with your post at all. I agree. Our university does not capture the mid and lower level donors that could eventually turn into upper level donors well in athletics nor academics. Great post.

This!  It's never been a priority.  Probably because they don't know how to do it.  I've made suggestions over the years but none have been followed up.  Ask an Eagle Club member why they joined and how they joined and how they found out.  It's sad.  Most will tell you they needed a better seat and/or parking spot.  They had to ask someone with a good spot how they got it.  Then they had to make a few phone calls in order to join.

If it wasn't for the (not highly advertised) recent alumni deal, there's no way that I could have gotten season tickets or joined the eagle club this year. The young alumni deal should be something that's expanded to 5 years post-grad (instead of 3) and advertised as soon as students are notified that they qualify for graduation (and again the week they walk, a month after they walk, and the months leading up to the start of the season). Do a better job explaining the purpose of the Student Alumni Association/Alumni Association so that when students graduate they are galvanized to join. Capture the future mid and upper level donors of tomorrow early. Get them to be supporters of the USM Foundation and USM Athletics immediately through the perks that Cyc suggested earlier. Make it habitual for each donor. Make them feel like what they're giving makes a difference whether that's towards scholarships, saving to upgrade facilities, etc. Check up with each donor yearly and not just to panhandle for money.

#15 Re: Southern Miss » 22,761 - WTF? » 2017-09-06 10:47:38

99beers wrote:

With everything that has been said in this thread.........There is still no plausible excuse as to why we only had 18K in the stands for a SEC matchup.  We will probably never get another P5 team in the Rock.  And folks wonder why we are considered little league.  I don't know how you fix the rampant "I don't give a fuck" mode we are in, from both a fan and administration standpoint.   I do know we pay folks to "fix" the problems, and that ain't working.  I feel horrible for the players.  They bust there asses and get to perform in front of 18K....a fucking SEC team.

I think that's just it. There's no excuse. A lot of fans who still care have realized that you can't keep making excuses any more. Something has to give sooner or later.

#16 Re: Southern Miss » 22,761 - WTF? » 2017-09-06 09:32:59

beagle wrote:
AEIOUSometimesWhy wrote:

I think a more regional league is something that G5 programs will start to shift to in the coming years. I think it would work out better for us to create these local rivalries (have one or two scheduled match-ups with P5 programs) and try to get our fanbase excited about them if marketed right. I grew up with CUSA 1.0 and 2.0, and I now long for a yearly rivalry game with a trophy or bragging rights at stake. Hating a team you play every year is a part of the college football experience (I'm trying to hate LA Tech, but we've only played them a handful of times in my lifetime).

However, I don't think this will happen until the TV contracts are up in the near future. The fact of the matter is ESPN is dying as a traditional TV broadcaster. The amount of people watching sporting events on TV is on the decline due to the number of cord cutters. Streaming services are up and are still emerging as a market as far as the sporting world goes. When the TV contracts are set to expire, that's when I think a lot of conference realignment (and/or independence) will happen.

I know this sounds sad, especially to the old-school fans, but South Alabama has the potential to be a rival down the road.

Easy drive, we get students from Mobile Bay, they get students from the Coast, etc. Only problem is they have no fans. They averaged 16k per game last year and that was with a 30k game vs Troy because they had a bunch of fans travel. I'm going go to their game Friday vs a top 15 OkState and it's not going to sellout or probably even come close.

It does sound sad. But, that same resistance to change has put us in this "same old, same old" attitude that we're stuck in now. As long as we can adapt to change and use it to our advantage, we can leverage ourselves back into the perennial G5 program that we've been in the past.

#17 Re: Southern Miss » Some requested features... » 2017-09-06 08:47:32

Suggestion:

A rep point system might be useful. Give positive points for good posts. Negative for bad posts. Either that or something similar to a upvote/downvote system that they have on Reddit/Facebook where it goes post by post instead of on a specific person.

#18 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance Not Just USM Issue » 2017-09-06 08:45:46

Cyc, I don't disagree with your post at all. I agree. Our university does not capture the mid and lower level donors that could eventually turn into upper level donors well in athletics nor academics. Great post.

#19 Re: Southern Miss » 22,761 - WTF? » 2017-09-06 08:41:12

southerner92 wrote:

I have missed 1 home game in last 28 years so I tried to think of all the DAY home games played on LABOR DAY weekend during this period and attendance. There was Memphis State in 1992 (around 15,000 but one of the best finishes to a game at home ever), Tulane in 1999 (great crowd but was marketed well, hot as hell and actually played on Labor Day), Oklahoma State in 2001 (around 22,000 actual but it did rain, Les Miles debut as head coach), and Illinois in 2002 (around 22,000 actual but it rained again, Derrick Nix was a beast). Anybody who was surprised by the attendance Saturday doesn't have a clue about the USM fanbase. And yes, Hurricane permitting, the crowd for a SWAC opponent this Saturday NIGHT will be larger than last week. Its just how USM fans have been for at least the last 28 years.

That's extremely impressive. Also, a point I didn't think of. Day games are always less attended than night games for us. I also think the Southern game will have more people because Southern University will bring more people than Kentucky did.

#20 Re: Southern Miss » 22,761 - WTF? » 2017-09-06 08:39:53

I think a more regional league is something that G5 programs will start to shift to in the coming years. I think it would work out better for us to create these local rivalries (have one or two scheduled match-ups with P5 programs) and try to get our fanbase excited about them if marketed right. I grew up with CUSA 1.0 and 2.0, and I now long for a yearly rivalry game with a trophy or bragging rights at stake. Hating a team you play every year is a part of the college football experience (I'm trying to hate LA Tech, but we've only played them a handful of times in my lifetime).

However, I don't think this will happen until the TV contracts are up in the near future. The fact of the matter is ESPN is dying as a traditional TV broadcaster. The amount of people watching sporting events on TV is on the decline due to the number of cord cutters. Streaming services are up and are still emerging as a market as far as the sporting world goes. When the TV contracts are set to expire, that's when I think a lot of conference realignment (and/or independence) will happen.

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