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#1 2021-12-02 15:53:21 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

There are only 2 sports that matter in the eyes of college athletics: Football & Men's Basketball.

I love baseball as much as anyone, but that does very little for any school in terms national perception. The 2 money making sports in college athletics are Football & Men's Basketball and we are absolutely abysmal in basketball. We have terrible facilities that leads to poor recruiting that results in awful teams with virtually no fan support or financial revenue. I have confidence we'll get back to respectability in football but until we do something about basketball, our athletic department will continue its years long slide down the national pecking order.

If the administration doesn't urgently address ways to improve basketball, then the future is dark for Southern Miss athletics.

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#2 2021-12-02 16:14:57 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Bleacher Eagle wrote:

Baseball does very little for any school in terms national perception.

Alarms just went off in the woost


"I don't think being in the 6th best conference is too bad."
"Look for Crickets Robertson to be one of the first 64 players chosen in the draft."
"Went to Starkville and came within one bad throw of taking the series."

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#3 2021-12-02 16:35:53 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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As a fan of college sports I don’t judge my enjoyment or what “matters” on national perception or how much money it generates. Going to the college World Series is a lifetime badge of honor for USM that many P5 money programs have yet to achieve. I also grew up in Raleigh in the early/mid 80’s, the Mecca of college basketball and they barely cared about football so it really has zero to do with how much money a sport makes or a national view. It’s all about the fans view/regional perception and what they care about. Today, we are a baseball school and have a past tradition of a football program. We have never and will never be a basketball school, same for all the Mississippi basketball programs for that matter. Just like NC State or the state of North Carolina will never be a college football power.

Be great at what you know and invest in that discipline. Football can be decent again but never at the clip/level of the 80’s and 90’s because money won’t allow it. At some point, money will destroy baseball as well so enjoy it as much as you can right now.


"There was a great deal of character on that field today. They are for real, no doubt about it. This was no fluke." - Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant

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#4 2021-12-02 17:07:25 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

As a fan of college sports I don’t judge my enjoyment or what “matters” on national perception or how much money it generates. Going to the college World Series is a lifetime badge of honor for USM that many P5 money programs have yet to achieve. I also grew up in Raleigh in the early/mid 80’s, the Mecca of college basketball and they barely cared about football so it really has zero to do with how much money a sport makes or a national view. It’s all about the fans view/regional perception and what they care about. Today, we are a baseball school and have a past tradition of a football program. We have never and will never be a basketball school, same for all the Mississippi basketball programs for that matter. Just like NC State or the state of North Carolina will never be a college football power.

Be great at what you know and invest in that discipline. Football can be decent again but never at the clip/level of the 80’s and 90’s because money won’t allow it. At some point, money will destroy baseball as well so enjoy it as much as you can right now.


  Nostradamus has spoken .

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#5 2021-12-03 09:05:51 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

As a fan of college sports I don’t judge my enjoyment or what “matters” on national perception or how much money it generates.

Nor do I, but as a Southern Miss alum I feel like all programs represent my alma mater and I'd prefer to at least be respectable in both of major sports.

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

Going to the college World Series is a lifetime badge of honor for USM that many P5 money programs have yet to achieve.

Many? Try SEVEN. Yes, only 7 total P5 baseball programs have yet to make a trip to the CWS.

Your complete list of P5 programs that have never made the CWS (BigTen is only conf with multiple teams):
   SEC: Kentucky
   Big12: Kansas State
   Pac12: ALL teams have played in the CWS (Colorado doesn't play baseball)
   ACC: Pitt (Syracuse doesn't play baseball)
   Big Ten: Maryland, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue

You also have a couple P5 schools (Wisconsin & Iowa State) that have made the CWS but no longer even field teams. Out of the 299 D1 baseball programs, 117 have made the CWS (roughly 40%).

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We have never and will never be a basketball school

I agree with that completely. I'm not saying we should strive to become a basketball school. I'm just saying we at least need to be somewhat competitive on the D1 level. There are 350 D1 basketball programs. We're probably in the bottom 100, maybe bottom 75. That's just absolutely embarrassing. We've had 1 winning year in the past 6 seasons and lets be honest, we dont exactly play a tough schedule. We should at minimum make a legitimate attempt and invest legitimate resources in order to elevate our program to mediocre. By that, I just mean .500 level or better. Continually finishing at the bottom of 1 bid leagues (CUSA or Sunbelt) can't be the best we can do.

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#6 2021-12-03 10:17:48 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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We should cheat more.

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#7 2021-12-03 13:09:18 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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admin wrote:

We should cheat more.

w/o posting a pamphlet…

those that state we’ve never been a hoopster, the rowdy metro rail folk would argue against…


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#8 2021-12-03 18:36:09 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

As a fan of college sports I don’t judge my enjoyment or what “matters” on national perception or how much money it generates. Going to the college World Series is a lifetime badge of honor for USM that many P5 money programs have yet to achieve. I also grew up in Raleigh in the early/mid 80’s, the Mecca of college basketball and they barely cared about football so it really has zero to do with how much money a sport makes or a national view. It’s all about the fans view/regional perception and what they care about. Today, we are a baseball school and have a past tradition of a football program. We have never and will never be a basketball school, same for all the Mississippi basketball programs for that matter. Just like NC State or the state of North Carolina will never be a college football power.

Be great at what you know and invest in that discipline. Football can be decent again but never at the clip/level of the 80’s and 90’s because money won’t allow it. At some point, money will destroy baseball as well so enjoy it as much as you can right now.


Have you seen our sister institution’s baseball facilities?
It will happen faster than you think.

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#9 2021-12-03 18:40:07 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Larry Eustachy gave Memphis all they could handle his last couple years.

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#10 2021-12-04 09:42:43 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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They need to move the basketball ball teams to the illegally funded volleyball arena and move the baseball team to RGC. It will become our version of The Trop like in Tampa……except with fans in the stands


"There was a great deal of character on that field today. They are for real, no doubt about it. This was no fluke." - Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant

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#11 2021-12-05 15:51:24 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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A week ago Friday, Southern Illinois defeated Alcorn State by THREE points.

Yesterday, Southern Illinois beat us by TWENTY FIVE!!!

We aren’t even SWAC level at this point.
Pathetic & embarrassing

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#12 2021-12-10 07:07:56 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Bleacher Eagle wrote:

We aren’t even SWAC level at this point.
Pathetic & embarrassing

#acrosstheboard


We still suck bigtime.
There's a big difference between optimism and an altered state of reality.
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#13 2021-12-10 11:04:37 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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I'm guessing we split the next two swac games and win no more than 4 coos-coos games...

once conference play starts, I'm betting against the buzzards every single game...


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#14 2021-12-10 14:53:08 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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"Ladner has said that he plans to tweak the lineup in one of two ways this upcoming week. The two different front courts will either include a larger lineup and or a smaller one."

Practically John Wooden


"I don't think being in the 6th best conference is too bad."
"Look for Crickets Robertson to be one of the first 64 players chosen in the draft."
"Went to Starkville and came within one bad throw of taking the series."

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#15 2021-12-10 15:25:24 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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The real trick would be making two different lineups that are somehow the exact same size.

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#16 2021-12-10 16:05:35 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Black Diamond Reb wrote:

"Ladner has said that he plans to tweak the lineup in one of two ways this upcoming week. The two different front courts will either include a larger lineup and or a smaller one."

Practically John Wooden

or yogi's version of the metric system....


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#17 2021-12-10 16:10:09 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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admin wrote:

The real trick would be making two different lineups that are somehow the exact same size.

1) Fill the five gallon jug. Three gallon jug is empty.

(2) Empty three gallons from the five gallon jug into the three gallon jug.

(3) There remains two gallons in the five gallon jug. Empty the three gallon jug.

(4) Pour the two gallons into the three gallon jug.

(5) Fill the five gallon jug and pour one gallon from it into the three gallon jug - filling the three gallon jug.

(6) Four gallons remain in the five gallon jug. We have solved the problem.

dammit ... 4 > 3 ... oh wellzy, gave it muh best shot .... raise and extension?!

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#18 2021-12-10 17:17:39 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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#19 2021-12-14 19:28:48 - Our putrid basketball program is a HUGE problem!

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Underrated movie…….probably second best in the franchise


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