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#1 2019-02-01 11:40:49 - We were once highly competitive

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We were once highly competitive

That's the authors only reason for USM to stay in FBS
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#2 2019-02-01 12:10:25 - We were once highly competitive

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People screw this question up a lot, whether it's phrased as "why did USM get into original CUSA" or "why should the AAC add USM" or "why should USM stay FBS."

The answer isn't that USM was "once" anything. The answer is that USM actually has fans.

About 98% (without exaggeration) of G5 schools aren't even the most popular college team in a single Zip code in polls where people are asked to choose a single favorite team. USM is. There's a map you can find online.

That map's 4 or 5 years old. Maybe shit has changed. Gilbert sure did his best to drive people off.

I still think more people actually give a damn about USM sports than any other G5 college be outside of a handful of P7 schools in the MWC / AAC.

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#3 2019-02-01 13:55:42 - We were once highly competitive

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AndreWhere wrote:

Gilbert sure did his best to drive people off.

And who hired Gilbert, and wants to hire Gilbert's hand picked protoge? There's the rub.


We still suck bigtime.

"Conference Play"

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#4 2019-02-01 14:50:06 - We were once highly competitive

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Eveyone is missing college football so some outlets put out a fluff piece to get a few eyeballs to pass time a few weeks removed from the last game before signing day arrives. Its funny how UCF went winless just 3 seasons ago and 6-6 including a bowl loss to Arky St just two seasons ago yet they are now the shining example of deserving a CFP bid and entry into the next P5 expansion. They even have a national championship banner hanging in their erector set stadium that is one more corrosive support beam away from being condemned. Sky is always falling until it isn't......

Reality is as simple as we are one good/great season away from dropping the sad talk about how bad CUSA is to thinking we are again worthy of the AAC. The entire narrative changes if you win 9-10 games this upcoming season and play a P5 team in a bowl game by the end of this year. You hang with State next September like you did with Auburn this season and you amp up your confidence another few notches on the dial.

All USM can do is control what is in front of them. Gilbert had zero impact, positive or negative, on USM. He literally was a non event so outside of him looking like a clown he didn't do anything to impact us one way or the other in less than 2 years on the job. The formula isn't complicated going forward. Hire a dedicated and hungry AD. Plenty of them out there. Schedule a few opponents on your future schedule that will make the fan base happy between now and summer. Throw in Walden getting the OC job and give the ball to the phenom out of Memphis that was good enough for Kirby Smart and life is back on the tracks in Hattiesburg. You win another CUSA football title within the next two seasons and then the narrative goes back to where UCF stands today.......crying about life not being fair while living in the G5.....


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#5 2019-02-01 18:25:45 - We were once highly competitive

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

Eveyone is missing college football so some outlets put out a fluff piece to get a few eyeballs to pass time a few weeks removed from the last game before signing day arrives. Its funny how UCF went winless just 3 seasons ago and 6-6 including a bowl loss to Arky St just two seasons ago yet they are now the shining example of deserving a CFP bid and entry into the next P5 expansion. They even have a national championship banner hanging in their erector set stadium that is one more corrosive support beam away from being condemned. Sky is always falling until it isn't......

Reality is as simple as we are one good/great season away from dropping the sad talk about how bad CUSA is to thinking we are again worthy of the AAC. The entire narrative changes if you win 9-10 games this upcoming season and play a P5 team in a bowl game by the end of this year. You hang with State next September like you did with Auburn this season and you amp up your confidence another few notches on the dial.

All USM can do is control what is in front of them. Gilbert had zero impact, positive or negative, on USM. He literally was a non event so outside of him looking like a clown he didn't do anything to impact us one way or the other in less than 2 years on the job. The formula isn't complicated going forward. Hire a dedicated and hungry AD. Plenty of them out there. Schedule a few opponents on your future schedule that will make the fan base happy between now and summer. Throw in Walden getting the OC job and give the ball to the phenom out of Memphis that was good enough for Kirby Smart and life is back on the tracks in Hattiesburg. You win another CUSA football title within the next two seasons and then the narrative goes back to where UCF stands today.......crying about life not being fair while living in the G5.....

This is what Gilbert did which does have a net negative effect on USM.

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#6 2019-02-01 18:41:15 - We were once highly competitive

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

Give the ball to the phenom out of Memphis.

Datoo and the Cuban Crisis were phenoms too. Was Dry Rub even All County?


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#7 2019-02-02 02:19:05 - We were once highly competitive

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Mao Tse-gore wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

Gilbert sure did his best to drive people off.

And who hired Gilbert, and wants to hire Gilbert's hand picked protoge? There's the rub.

Rodney's at least as good as anyone we've had in that job since Horace Fleming. Not a high bar, but he's clearing it.


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#8 2019-02-02 10:03:46 - We were once highly competitive

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If you believe Gilbert reflected his boss, what was laid down in his several opinions on USM athletics was utter gobbledygook. And Gilbert Jr. in his initial communique further diminished the subject in admonishing all of us knuckle draggers that "...we are in the education business after all..." ignoring the fact that athletics feeds, advertises and brings credibility to education.


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#9 2019-02-02 10:59:25 - We were once highly competitive

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Email from your for now temporary AD

Dear Golden Eagle fans,

I love this time of the year!  Our campus is vibrant as students have returned for the second semester, and most of our Spring sports have begun or are about to start!
Basketball season is in conference play. The men’s program has won two-straight games and five of their last seven contests and sit just two games out of first place in the C-USA standings.  Our next home game is Saturday, February 9, at 4:00 pm vs. Louisiana Tech.  Redshirt Junior Leonard Harper-Baker is the current C-USA player of the week.  As for the Lady Eagles, they have won three consecutive contests, including a win at Western Kentucky, which snapped a 22-game home winning streak for the Hilltoppers. Kelsey Jones is the reigning C-USA Freshman of the Week.  The Lady Eagles host Florida Atlantic this Saturday at 4:00 pm.

Women’s tennis is off to a 3-0 start to its season as Sophomore Katia de la Garza captured C-USA player of the week honors, while men’s tennis opened its campaign with a pair of 7-0 victories last week. Beach volleyball opens its inaugural season on February 22 against Coastal Carolina and Spring Hill in Mobile, Alabama.  Men’s golf begins this Saturday with a day event in the LaTour Collegiate Challenge in Matthews, Louisiana.  Women’s golf opens at the Icon Invitational on February 25-26 at The Woodlands, Texas.

In track news, Senior John Warren is currently No. 1 in C-USA, No. 1 in the NCAA, and No. 3 in the world for the indoor triple jump with a distance of 55’2”. This is also the Southern Miss record, which John had previously set at a distance of 53’7.5”.  John is also No. 25 in the NCAA for his long jump, with a new personal record of 25’0.75”, which ranks number 4 in C-USA.
Senior McKinely West is No. 20 in the NCAA for the 60m, with a time of 6.68 seconds, which is No. 1 in C-USA. Caleb Parker is No. 14 in NCAA in the 60m Hurdles and is No. 1 in C-USA with a time of 7.77 seconds, which ties his own school record.  Sophomore Rikianne Patterson ranks 2nd in C-USA in the long jump with a mark of 20'3".

The Golden Eagle baseball program, which has won a school-best 94 games over a two-year period, has been picked to win C-USA by the 12 league coaches, by D1Baseball.com, and by PerfectGame.org this preseason. Southern Miss has been ranked preseason number 21 in the latest Baseball America poll, and Junior Matt Wallner has been named the consensus preseason Player of the Year.  The baseball season begins February 15 with a three game series against Purdue.
Softball opens its season with the Black and Gold Invitational at the USM Softball Complex, February 8-10, with Houston Baptist, Central Arkansas, Tennessee Tech and Jackson State heading to the Hub City to open up the ledger. Senior Samantha Papp earned preseason all C-USA honors.

Tickets for the 2019 football season will go on sale beginning February 8, and we need your support for a noticeable home field advantage this Fall.  Season ticket packages will be pro-rated across all seating levels for the five home game slate.  Our attendance goal for next season is for 30,000 fans to pack The Rock for each of our five home games. Our external relations team already is working on fun and creative events and promotions to make game days memorable.  You’ll see #30K5TIMES as we rally everyone to watch the Golden Eagles play.  We look forward to sharing more details! 

You may have noticed the recent news that Southern Miss has been recognized as one of the nation’s leading research institutions by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. The University’s inclusion on the “R1: Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity” list places the University in the distinguished company of institutions like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, and others. Only 130 institutions in the nation are classified as R1, which represents the highest level of research activity for universities. This news is tremendous for our campus, and we should all be proud!

As I continue to have great interaction with fans at games and with colleagues across campus, the most prevalent question I get is, “How can I help?” The quick way is to buy season tickets and attend games.  The next step is to encourage others to do the same.  I invite you to join us at an upcoming game and bring your family and friends.

Finally, help us make #GoGoldFriday special! I encourage you to wear Southern Miss gear every Friday.  It’s an easy demonstration of support for Southern Miss.  I smile every time I see someone wearing Golden Eagle gear while on campus, in a restaurant, or running errands.  Be proud to wear the Black and Gold.  We have much to celebrate.  Plus, Spring is coming!  Get excited!

Jeff Mitchell
Interim Director of Athletics

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#10 2019-02-02 11:28:14 - We were once highly competitive

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Thanks for posting Chosen.

It’s a step in the right direction. Didn’t realize we had a guy #1 in the NCAA in Track and Field. Would love to see someone put something out on behalf of Hop regarding team updates going forward as well.


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#11 2019-02-02 13:45:48 - We were once highly competitive

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Agree, football should have someone constantly updating.

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#12 2019-02-02 14:23:47 - We were once highly competitive

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Mao Tse-gore wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

Gilbert sure did his best to drive people off.

And who hired Gilbert, and wants to hire Gilbert's hand picked protoge? There's the rub.

Bennett took down our beautiful MS flag

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#13 2019-02-02 14:50:45 - We were once highly competitive

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AWeasel wrote:

Dear Golden Eagle fans,

I love this time of the year!  Our campus is vibrant as students have returned for the second semester, and most of our Spring sports have begun or are about to start!
Basketball season is in conference play. The men’s program has won two-straight games and five of their last seven contests and sit just two games out of first place in the C-USA standings.  Our next home game is Saturday, February 9, at 4:00 pm vs. Louisiana Tech.  Redshirt Junior Leonard Harper-Baker is the current C-USA player of the week.  As for the Lady Eagles, they have won three consecutive contests, including a win at Western Kentucky, which snapped a 22-game home winning streak for the Hilltoppers. Kelsey Jones is the reigning C-USA Freshman of the Week.  The Lady Eagles host Florida Atlantic this Saturday at 4:00 pm.

Women’s tennis is off to a 3-0 start to its season as Sophomore Katia de la Garza captured C-USA player of the week honors, while men’s tennis opened its campaign with a pair of 7-0 victories last week. Beach volleyball opens its inaugural season on February 22 against Coastal Carolina and Spring Hill in Mobile, Alabama.  Men’s golf begins this Saturday with a day event in the LaTour Collegiate Challenge in Matthews, Louisiana.  Women’s golf opens at the Icon Invitational on February 25-26 at The Woodlands, Texas.

In track news, Senior John Warren is currently No. 1 in C-USA, No. 1 in the NCAA, and No. 3 in the world for the indoor triple jump with a distance of 55’2”. This is also the Southern Miss record, which John had previously set at a distance of 53’7.5”.  John is also No. 25 in the NCAA for his long jump, with a new personal record of 25’0.75”, which ranks number 4 in C-USA.
Senior McKinely West is No. 20 in the NCAA for the 60m, with a time of 6.68 seconds, which is No. 1 in C-USA. Caleb Parker is No. 14 in NCAA in the 60m Hurdles and is No. 1 in C-USA with a time of 7.77 seconds, which ties his own school record.  Sophomore Rikianne Patterson ranks 2nd in C-USA in the long jump with a mark of 20'3".

The Golden Eagle baseball program, which has won a school-best 94 games over a two-year period, has been picked to win C-USA by the 12 league coaches, by D1Baseball.com, and by PerfectGame.org this preseason. Southern Miss has been ranked preseason number 21 in the latest Baseball America poll, and Junior Matt Wallner has been named the consensus preseason Player of the Year.  The baseball season begins February 15 with a three game series against Purdue.
Softball opens its season with the Black and Gold Invitational at the USM Softball Complex, February 8-10, with Houston Baptist, Central Arkansas, Tennessee Tech and Jackson State heading to the Hub City to open up the ledger. Senior Samantha Papp earned preseason all C-USA honors.

Tickets for the 2019 football season will go on sale beginning February 8, and we need your support for a noticeable home field advantage this Fall.  Season ticket packages will be pro-rated across all seating levels for the five home game slate.  Our attendance goal for next season is for 30,000 fans to pack The Rock for each of our five home games. Our external relations team already is working on fun and creative events and promotions to make game days memorable.  You’ll see #30K5TIMES as we rally everyone to watch the Golden Eagles play.  We look forward to sharing more details! 

You may have noticed the recent news that Southern Miss has been recognized as one of the nation’s leading research institutions by the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education. The University’s inclusion on the “R1: Doctoral Universities – Very high research activity” list places the University in the distinguished company of institutions like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, and others. Only 130 institutions in the nation are classified as R1, which represents the highest level of research activity for universities. This news is tremendous for our campus, and we should all be proud!

As I continue to have great interaction with fans at games and with colleagues across campus, the most prevalent question I get is, “How can I help?” The quick way is to buy season tickets and attend games.  The next step is to encourage others to do the same.  I invite you to join us at an upcoming game and bring your family and friends.

Finally, help us make #GoGoldFriday special! I encourage you to wear Southern Miss gear every Friday.  It’s an easy demonstration of support for Southern Miss.  I smile every time I see someone wearing Golden Eagle gear while on campus, in a restaurant, or running errands.  Be proud to wear the Black and Gold.  We have much to celebrate.  Plus, Spring is coming!  Get excited!

Jeff Mitchell
Interim Director of Athletics

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