The Truth About Stephen Paddock and the Las Vegas Massacre

TruthTella () · #1

The mainstream media are pushing the story that we don't know what his motivation was. The right wing media (Alex Jones, Michael Savage, etc.) are busy with the ISIS angle. I haven't seen anyone get this story right, so I'm going to share the real truth.

Stephen Paddock wasn't a Muslim or a psychopath. He was an extremely intelligent and calculating man who also happened to be a garden variety embittered leftist.

Paddock saw a chance to do two things at once. First, he saw a chance to kill people he perceived as ignorant rednecks. Second, and more importantly, he saw an opportunity to reignite the stalled effort to disarm that same group of people.

So far, it's worked. Michael Savage was arguing for a ban on bump-stock triggers and suppressors on the radio today. Alex Jones is distracted by the whole Islam angle. Even Trump has taken a "we'll see" attitude towards further disarmament.

Paddock figured out that shootings targeting children and minorities don't really register with conservatives, at least not enough to make them go along with disarmament. If you want gun confiscation to happen, you have to shoot at the right-wingers themselves, and get people like Michael Savage (who I'm very disappointed in right now) on board.

The $100,000 sent to the Philippines was a red herring. Paddock knew it would distract people long enough for the media to bury the real story, i.e. that he was really a gun-grabbing leftist.

The prospect of disarming conservative Americans is a scary one. The global elite have only two real enemies left: Russia, and conservative people with rifles secreted away. Some of these people are Afghani tribesmen, some of them are Alabama rednecks. They don't all realize they share a common cause, but they do, and the people who actually run things want us all neutered and de-fanged, badly.

Do not doubt what I have posted here. It is the only possible explanation for the event the media are calling inexplicable.

99beers · #2

Fucktard right here boys!

AndreWhere · #3

99beers wrote:

Fucktard right here boys!

I haven't fully digested it but it borders on spam.

USMstang · #4

I can't disagree with this guest other than to say that in addition to how he described the shooter, he left out deranged, criminal piece of shit. Pretty much all of the mass shooters that were registered voters were registered Dems or supported Dems (leftists).

For the politicians or anyone for that matter to continue to attack gun rights/guns/silencers is absurd and plain stupid. The weapon of choice here again is a very effective one but so are bombs and heavy trucks as we've seen. Where is the ban on delivery trucks right? Of course not, that would be fucking stupid.

To me it has become more evident every day that there is a global establishment plan in action. It is being challenged more now than ever before by people like Nigel Farage and Donald Trump and their supporters. There will be no limits for the actions moving forward to defeat rational, free thought.

Think I'm crazy? Think about this: JFK signed an executive order to disband the Federal Reserve in early 1963. They whacked his ass 6 months later. LBJ reversed the action and then further enacted a major money grab (see Great Society) that has helped screw us and put us in the position we are in today. The Establishment wants/needs us to be completely dependent upon them and that will not occur until we are disarmed.

How could I leave out that the Republicans have gone right along with all this bullshit (once the Dems quit giving a fuck about the little guy in the 50s). They're all in it for the money and they are raking it in right in broad daylight and don't give two shits who sees it!

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AndreWhere · #5

The latest rumour I am hearing is that the shooting was the result of a botched sting operation. The FBI was trying to bust people buying guns for ISIS, and the criminals figured it out and turned the tables on Paddock, who was an undercover operative. He was dead when the shooting started.

This seems as plausible to me as anything else I've heard. However, if this is what happened, why wouldn't ISIS just tell us?

TheChosenOne · #6

It's time for BDR's UFO and Big Foot photos

AndreWhere · #7

TheChosenOne wrote:

It's time for BDR's UFO and Big Foot photos

If the official line is that Paddock himself did this for unknowable reasons, I think that's actually stranger than what I suggested in my last post. It's analogous to biologists telling us Bigfoot *does* exist and AndreWhere telling you he really doesn't.

And you don't have to be some big conspiracy theorist to want to know why 500+ people were shot at a concert. Seems like a rational thing to wonder about.

I know Mississippians don't look outward much, though. It can be a very healthy thing to stick to one's own business, but it's... different. I was living in Gulfport on 9/11/01 and even at my very conservative, upper middle class workplace people were surprisingly indifferent to what had happened. Eventually the media, politicians, etc. sort of told us we were supposed to be very upset, but that was not the reaction I initially witnessed.

Black Diamond Reb · #8

TheChosenOne wrote:

It's time for Big Foot photos

He shot Big Foot?

tg300

TheChosenOne · #9

No, the Feds shot Big foot. Didn't want the truth out. Keep up man

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USMstang · #10

AndreWhere wrote:

The latest rumour I am hearing is that the shooting was the result of a botched sting operation. The FBI was trying to bust people buying guns for ISIS, and the criminals figured it out and turned the tables on Paddock, who was an undercover operative. He was dead when the shooting started.
This seems as plausible to me as anything else I've heard. However, if this is what happened, why wouldn't ISIS just tell us?

I have only seen one news report on the shooting and it was one of the very first ones that broke. It had audio/video where you could see people running in a chaotic situation with the sound of gunfire and I'll tell you this: as someone who is very familiar with Class III items and firearms of all types, what I heard was full auto. I'm not saying there weren't other weapon types in his cache, I have no idea and they probably ain't ever gonna tell the public. But bump-fire stocks don't work that well when pointed downward and binary triggers only work as fast as your finger and your finger couldn't pull off full auto very well for very long. Bump fire stocks are also very inconsistent with rate of fire as well.

So if someone was buying weapons for ISIS, the full auto stuff would have to be home-brew and not lawfully serialized. Otherwise, there are some very stupid people out there. Trust me when I tell you that the proper federal agencies know exactly where all serialized, licensed Class III items are or at least where they were when the tax stamp was purchased.

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AndreWhere

AndreWhere · #11

USMstang wrote:

Trust me when I tell you that the proper federal agencies know exactly where all serialized, licensed Class III items are or at least where they were when the tax stamp was purchased.

I don't doubt that for a second.

I also agree about the audio. Those sounds were not made by an AK-47 with a slide-fire device. It definitely sounds like two people are firing at once, too.

The presence of 24 guns in the hotel room also confuses me. Lugging around a bunch of extra guns is not a sound tactic. You can only shoot one at a time anyway.

There is a reason there were 24 guns in that room, and it wasn't "because Paddock wanted to shoot a bunch of people."

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tg300 · #12

AndreWhere wrote:

USMstang wrote:
Trust me when I tell you that the proper federal agencies know exactly where all serialized, licensed Class III items are or at least where they were when the tax stamp was purchased.
I don't doubt that for a second.
I also agree about the audio. Those sounds were not made by an AK-47 with a slide-fire device. It definitely sounds like two people are firing at once, too.
The presence of 24 guns in the hotel room also confuses me. Lugging around a bunch of extra guns is not a sound tactic. You can only shoot one at a time anyway.
There is a reason there were 24 guns in that room, and it wasn't "because Paddock wanted to shoot a bunch of people."

All of this bothers me with the story in the media.

The sound definitely sounds like more than one shooter and like full auto not bump stock or anything else.

This is a casino hotel. There is no way to get in and out of it w/o being caught on camera.

I would like to see the video of him entering the building each time back to back to back, etc.

How many trips? How much is he carrying with each trip? Was he always alone? Were there other people that made multiple trips carrying a good bit in but nothing out? Did he have all this delivered by FEDEX or UPS?

AndreWhere · #13

If all that comes out of this is a ban on the slide-fire (a.k.a. bump stock) device, I'm somewhat OK with that. Slide-fire devices are, in my mind, basically a toy. A slide-fire device ban can be the briar patch we let ourselves get thrown into. Slide-fire devices were not the reason this attack killed so many people, and if the feds try to explain away the audio I've heard by pointing to slide-fire devices, they're even more brazen in their deception than I'd imagined.

Don't get me wrong, I think gun control in any form is treasonous bullshit. I'm more concerned about other things, though, e.g. how certain states limit magazine capacities, pistol grips, etc.

Binary triggers are pretty good. I hope those don't get banned.

We are being misled and deceived to an unprecedented extent. Much, more information needs to be shared with the general public. We are the government's boss, not the other way around.

USMstang

99beers · #14

Luggage cart. Rifles hidden in hanging bags. Only way to pull that off. Multiple trips. They say he had been there for a couple of weeks.

admin · #15

99beers wrote:

Luggage cart. Rifles hidden in hanging bags. Only way to pull that off. Multiple trips. They say he had been there for a couple of weeks.

It does not surprise me at all that he was able to get 24 rifles into a hotel room. Why would that surprise anyone?

USMstang · #16

I'm not surprised by that at all.

What I meant about Class III items being known is quite simple. When a Form 1/3/4 is completed, a premises address must be listed. At present, any and all entities will be thoroughly vetted by the proper federal agency (I don't like to type the 3 initials of either of the two agencies that review this stuff; one administrates it and the other performs the background investigative work). Furthermore, by law, if you change permanent addresses where the taxed items are stored, you must fill out a Form 20 and let them know the new address. Do people ignore this, probably but I wouldn't want to be the poor bastard that gets caught! Each offense is $250K and 10 years locked up. Fuck that! If you're gonna whack yourself after committing some heinous crime, none of that matters I suppose but still, either he was lawfully vetted or supplied by someone. The proper agency will figure that shit out. Or maybe, he was a badass machinist in his own right and did the modifications himself.

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tg300 · #17

admin wrote:

99beers wrote:
Luggage cart. Rifles hidden in hanging bags. Only way to pull that off. Multiple trips. They say he had been there for a couple of weeks.
It does not surprise me at all that he was able to get 24 rifles into a hotel room. Why would that surprise anyone?

That would take several hanging bags for 1 person.

He checked in Sept. 27 or 28 according to 'the media.'

AndreWhere · #18

USMstang wrote:

Do people ignore this?

I doubt it. People who own fully automatic weapons generally have their shit together. They have a lot of disposable income and are probably accustomed to dealing correctly with paperwork.

I don't know if suppressors are "class 3" but they do require a stamp. I can imagine people who own suppressors forgetting about the Form 20. Machine guns, though? No.

USMstang wrote:

Or maybe, he was a badass machinist in his own right and did the modifications himself.

I hear there are a lot of good machine shops in certain parts of Virginia.

USMstang · #19

SBRs, Silencers, and full auto are all Class III which explains what I mainly meant in my "do they ignore" comment. To clarify: I am not aware of anyone doing this and in what I do for a living, if I became aware, I will "drop a dime on your ass". I am aware that the internet has instructions for all kinds of things.

AndreWhere · #20

USMstang wrote:

am not aware of anyone doing this and in what I do for a living, if I became aware, I will "drop a dime on your ass". I am aware that the internet has instructions for all kinds of things.

I don't fuck around with that kind of thing either. There are way too many horror stories out there. They don't even care about your intentions; if you run afoul of that part of the federal code in even the smallest way, you're going to prison.

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