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#1 2018-01-23 19:04:45 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

This is something I've been saying for months now: Gilbert is trying to engineer a quick win in terms of drumming up more revenue, to the overall detriment of USM atheltics.

Someone over at Crayola.com is asking for examples. It's one of those accounts which I suspect is really Jeremy, but, if it isn't, I think it's pretty foolish asking questions about something you read here over on a different board that hadn't had a post in a couple of days.

That said, I'll answer.

The biggest example is the Kentucky game. When the TV coverage opened up, I was shocked by how empty and dingy M.M. Roberts looked. It was one of the most disappointing moments of my many years as a USM fan. Here's USM's return game from an SEC team we beat last year, a team that went on to play in the Gator Bowl, and we get... that??

After the game, Gilbert was touting how much money he made. Apparently, he successfully shook down the core group of fans who didn't mind paying $40 or whatever to get in, and kept everyone else out.

Maybe that's appropriate for some games. It was not appropriate for a winnable home opener against an SEC team. There's no proving it, but I think that a big, enthusiastic home crowd might have made the difference that day.

Instead, we got a demoralizing, bullshit experience that set the tone for a bullshit season- especially at M.M. Roberts. Gilbert won't mention that on his resume.

Later, it came out that Gilbert was shaking down his own staff for donations. Again, in the short term, people eager to impress the new boss will comply with his demands, but in the long term, it's just more bush league horse crap. Over time, competent people will avoid that sort of workplace, and we'll attract boot-lickers instead.

The latest example (and I'm not the only one using the description "bush league" for this one) is the micro-managed, pocket-picking approach to selling tickets to the baseball opener. Is it intended to get as many enthusiastic USM fans into the stadium as possible, show them the best time USM can show them, and get the team the support it needs?

Hell no! It's about picking the pockets of the bluehairs, whether they wear gold or maroon.

The focus of USM's AD absolutely must be on transforming the game day experience - which has turned to utter shit - into something good again. People don't like staring at a mildewy upper deck, unless there are asses in the bleachers to cover up the mildew. People don't like having to parallel park on US49 for a football game. People don't like listening to a blown-out sound system.

I'm surprised I even have to explain these things.

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#2 2018-01-23 19:14:10 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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people don't like being sold a load of volleyball bullshit


"Did you ever consider that the next level would be a lower one?"

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#3 2018-01-23 19:31:42 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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B&GBU wrote:

people don't like being sold a load of volleyball bullshit

agree . Women’s sport should be banned. Sick of woman. Us needs to go to Saudi araba policy with women’s.

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#4 2018-01-23 19:35:16 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Trump fan wrote:
B&GBU wrote:

people don't like being sold a load of volleyball bullshit

agree . Women’s sport should be banned. Sick of woman. Us needs to go to Saudi araba policy with women’s.

I kind of thought gymnastics might have been a women's sport that would attract some actual interest. Doesn't really fit in with Gilbert's "kill the goose and haul ass" philosophy, I guess.


Bring back Reed V. "Pie" TurkPalmer Eustachy.

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#5 2018-01-23 20:08:37 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.


"Did you ever consider that the next level would be a lower one?"

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#6 2018-01-23 20:21:36 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Re: Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

B&GBU wrote:

Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.

Favre is paying for the vast majority of the volleyball facility, as his daughter is in the program. It’ll be raised 100% by private donations. Please STFU until you know WTF you are talking about.


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#7 2018-01-23 21:06:16 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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B&GBU wrote:

Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.

titty IX doesn't make cents.....

another 'fuck you' to Nixon and the feminazis/congress.......fk'n dipshites....

and Andre.....Eag9 is solid....


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#8 2018-01-23 21:12:05 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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beagle wrote:
B&GBU wrote:

Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.

Favre is paying for the vast majority of the volleyball facility, as his daughter is in the program. It’ll be raised 100% by private donations. Please STFU until you know WTF you are talking about.

we already knew that.....that wasn't his point.....

what he's saying is there is some big money in this town......and it's being misspent in relative terms.....

title IX sucked since it was implemented.....and then it expanded into sports.......

guess what happens to the low budget schools.......


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#9 2018-01-23 21:14:30 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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beagle wrote:
B&GBU wrote:

Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.

Favre is paying for the vast majority of the volleyball facility, as his daughter is in the program. It’ll be raised 100% by private donations. Please STFU until you know WTF you are talking about.

Who said anything about the Wellness center/VD clinic?


"Did you ever consider that the next level would be a lower one?"

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#10 2018-01-23 21:19:07 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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stinkfist wrote:

Eag9 is solid....

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?


Bring back Reed V. "Pie" TurkPalmer Eustachy.

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#11 2018-01-23 21:38:12 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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AndreWhere wrote:

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?


Why does Zaxbys secret sauce taste exactly the same as Raising Canes secret sauce?
Why did White House Down and Olympus has Fallen come out around the same time?
Why does Ray Parker Jr’s, “Ghostbusters” sound like the Huey Lewis song, “I want a new drug”?

I think we all know the answer to these questions.....

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#12 2018-01-23 21:39:15 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?


Why does Zaxbys secret sauce taste exactly the same as Raising Canes secret sauce?
Why did White House Down and Olympus has Fallen come out around the same time?
Why does Ray Parker Jr’s, “Ghostbusters” sound like the Huey Lewis song, “I want a new drug”?

I think we all know the answer to these questions.....

mcdowells-restaurant-comingtoamerica.jpg

"He's got the Big Mac, I've got the Big Mick..."


Bring back Reed V. "Pie" TurkPalmer Eustachy.

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#13 2018-01-23 21:40:34 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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AndreWhere wrote:
stinkfist wrote:

Eag9 is solid....

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?

dunno....I simply know he's not jeremy....

I would look at it in the vein when I would review EP, yet never post......maybe he reads this one too....

we all look for info.....some simply play differently than others....

#nobiggie


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#14 2018-01-23 21:42:46 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Re: Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

stinkfist wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:
stinkfist wrote:

Eag9 is solid....

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?

dunno....I simply know he's not jeremy....

I would look at it in the vein when I would review EP, yet never post......maybe he reads this one too....

we all look for info.....some simply play differently than others....

#nobiggie

I don't generally make a big deal out of that sort of thing, but if you really have a specific question about something that I keep posting here...


Bring back Reed V. "Pie" TurkPalmer Eustachy.

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#15 2018-01-23 21:51:56 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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AndreWhere wrote:
stinkfist wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?

dunno....I simply know he's not jeremy....

I would look at it in the vein when I would review EP, yet never post......maybe he reads this one too....

we all look for info.....some simply play differently than others....

#nobiggie

I don't generally make a big deal out of that sort of thing, but if you really have a specific question about something that I keep posting here...

maybe he doesn't agree with this site's 'no holds barred' format and trolls you on that board.....can you give me a few posts that corroborate that???  I've never noticed whatever you're referencing.....

however, it's a pretty good guess he's one in the 'system'....

I like reading his posits.....he's well informed....


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#16 2018-01-23 21:53:18 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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stinkfist wrote:

we all look for info.

No one wants to miss breaking SUNWACUSA news.


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#17 2018-01-23 21:59:22 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Re: Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

stinkfist wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:
stinkfist wrote:

dunno....I simply know he's not jeremy....

I would look at it in the vein when I would review EP, yet never post......maybe he reads this one too....

we all look for info.....some simply play differently than others....

#nobiggie

I don't generally make a big deal out of that sort of thing, but if you really have a specific question about something that I keep posting here...

maybe he doesn't agree with this site's 'no holds barred' format and trolls you on that board.....can you give me a few posts that corroborate that???  I've never noticed whatever you're referencing.....

however, it's a pretty good guess he's one in the 'system'....

I like reading his posits.....he's well informed....

I thought it was weird how he was an old CSNBBS account that suddenly became much more active after this board started.

It's true that there will always be people who prefer a board where people do get banned, censored, etc., though. Maybe that's all it is.


Bring back Reed V. "Pie" TurkPalmer Eustachy.

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#18 2018-01-23 22:04:13 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

OK, but why is he asking questions there about things I posted here?


Why does Zaxbys secret sauce taste exactly the same as Raising Canes secret sauce?
Why did White House Down and Olympus has Fallen come out around the same time?
Why does Ray Parker Jr’s, “Ghostbusters” sound like the Huey Lewis song, “I want a new drug”?

I think we all know the answer to these questions.....

mcdowells-restaurant-comingtoamerica.jpg

soul-go.gif


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#19 2018-01-23 22:10:42 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Re: Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

AndreWhere wrote:
stinkfist wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

I don't generally make a big deal out of that sort of thing, but if you really have a specific question about something that I keep posting here...

maybe he doesn't agree with this site's 'no holds barred' format and trolls you on that board.....can you give me a few posts that corroborate that???  I've never noticed whatever you're referencing.....

however, it's a pretty good guess he's one in the 'system'....

I like reading his posits.....he's well informed....

I thought it was weird how he was an old CSNBBS account that suddenly became much more active after this board started.

It's true that there will always be people who prefer a board where people do get banned, censored, etc., though. Maybe that's all it is.

maybe he stumbled upon a board that became active.....

it still gets views.....think about it that way....

hell, when I joined, I checked out our local and never did after the initial visit......

it took lanny to screw the pooch with his canned pos changeover for the ep'rs to switch.......and then dingo had to fuck that up.....

like I tell ford (eaglex), the bs doesn't matter to me.....I'm just a user......


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#20 2018-01-24 00:47:26 - Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

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Re: Jon Gilbert: short-term revenue vs. long-term good

stinkfist wrote:
beagle wrote:
B&GBU wrote:

Investing deeper into stuff that has no chance of return and that we can't afford then selling it as accomplishment makes no sense.  There's a minimum you have to do on women's sports and that's the level at which we should do them until.  We are sinking and these pukes are adding load.

Favre is paying for the vast majority of the volleyball facility, as his daughter is in the program. It’ll be raised 100% by private donations. Please STFU until you know WTF you are talking about.

we already knew that.....that wasn't his point.....

what he's saying is there is some big money in this town......and it's being misspent in relative terms.....

title IX sucked since it was implemented.....and then it expanded into sports.......

guess what happens to the low budget schools.......

What was his point then?


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