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#1 Re: Southern Miss » Monken » Yesterday 16:36:23

EagleFWB wrote:

Officially hired as Browns OC per the Twitter machine.

Haven't really followed pro ball for the last 3-4 years  Obviously a saints fan but.....

With monk and collins with the browns, I could see myself pulling for the browns as odd
as that sounds coming from a guy that was a steelers fan as a kid.

#2 Re: Southern Miss » Protect Scotty Walden » 2019-01-10 08:47:37

stinkfist wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

Didn't Chip just sign on with Les Miles at Kansas? Is being the HC at Troy State really a better job?

as a bama boy, Troy would be a good fit for him....

hell, he was a HS coach 7 yrs. ago....no question he takes a HC position if offered....

if he does as well as Neal Brown did, it'll be icing on the cake for him moving forward....

e12loss hired a HS coach as OC and he got a dry cleaning business out of the deal

#3 Re: Southern Miss » Monken » 2019-01-08 14:17:09

EagleFWB wrote:

To clarify... Those three are interviewing him for HC.


Monken got his first head coaching experience at Southern Miss, where he coached three seasons turning around a previously winless program. He left SMU to become the Bucs' offensive coordinator in 2016, a role he's been in for the last three seasons.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/sport … 511150002/

#4 Re: Southern Miss » Be glad we didn't get the Dallas Bowl invitation » 2018-12-28 11:07:34

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
skyvoyager wrote:

Not sure about the turning on bowerball.... the 99 and 2000 teams were good.  Won the conference in 2003

it was the 04, 05, 06 ( 7-5 teams ) that started the turn.  It did not help that by 2007 we had ~75 on scholly either.

Although we didn't know it at the time it happened the 2000 loss to Louisville, followed by the bad losses to Cinci and ECU officially turned the page on Bower. The 2000 team was a good team that failed to live up to their potential and was really one of the biggest wasted opportunities in our programs history.
Getting destroyed by not showing up against a bad two win Penn St team in 2001 was another moment in the fall of Bower. I was at the USF game in Tampa in 2002. To many of us there, that was a terrible loss since this was only their second season removed from 1AA ball. USF was 3-2 going into that game and would go on to have a great season but that game is when people really started to examine if Bower had past his best years.


could not agree more about 2000.... Cleveland wrote an article about that somewhere around 2006-2007.

before the loserville game in 2000, we were 25-2 in cusa with 3 conference championships.... after the loserville game
in 2000 we were 38-20 in cusa with 1 championship... that game seemed to be a turning point

speaking of cinci the 52-14 drubbing at home in 2004 was a big turning point for many.... i watched half the stadium leave during the 3rd qtr.

#5 Re: Southern Miss » Be glad we didn't get the Dallas Bowl invitation » 2018-12-28 10:17:01

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

IMO, the 2002 Houston Bowl was poorly attended by USM because of the following:

We just played OSU for two consecutive seasons
We finished the last 7 games that season 3-4 including bad loses to Tulane, TCU and USF(I was at that one in Tampa...horrible)
The season before we finished 6-5 no bowl
Fanbase was starting to turn on Bowerball

On the flip side, OSU was finally turning the page with Les Miles in his second season. This was their first winning season in years. They finished the season beating #3 Oklahoma right before our bowl game. OSU has a massive alumni base between San Antonio and Houston and they hadn't really played a game in the state of Texas since the first week in October. They did play in Lubbock but that is essentially New Mexico.

Not sure about the turning on bowerball.... the 99 and 2000 teams were good.  Won the conference in 2003

it was the 04, 05, 06 ( 7-5 teams ) that started the turn.  It did not help that by 2007 we had ~75 on scholly either.

#6 Re: Southern Miss » Be glad we didn't get the Dallas Bowl invitation » 2018-12-28 09:35:49

AndreWhere wrote:
skyvoyager wrote:
AndreWhere wrote:

Now that I agree with. I always laugh at the "economic impact" figures for anything. Like most economics, they're just so speculative.

And who gets that impact? Oh, a bunch of people gassed up at a gas station owned by some dude from who knows where? And I'm supposed to benefit because just maybe some of it will go to the local government, whose services I hardly use anyway?

I will say that I've never gone to a USM bowl game and wondered how they were paying the bills. The 2000 GMAC Bowl, the 2002 Houston Bowl, the 2003 Liberty Bowl, last year's game, a couple of New Orleans Bowls... these were all well-attended events, often largely thanks to USM.

That's the overlooked strength of USM. It's ebbing away, but for a long time at least, people actually gave a shit.

I was at the 2002 houston bowl and I am not sure that it was well-attended largely thanks to usm.
Of the ~45,000 in attendance, it looked like we were outnumbered 2 to 1.

The 97 Liberty bowl we might have had 20-25 thousand out of ~50,000 which is sad because we couldn't get 25,000 to come to a home game against loserville that year.

Yeah, I was there and it could have been 10-to-1. I was embarrassed and pissed off, but after the extra large helping of bullshit USM fans were served in 2001 - 2002, I wasn't surprised.

The rest of those games had good USM representation, often more people than you'd see at a typical home game.

I always thought it was funny the year we went to Hawaii and everyone was upset because we didn't go to dallas and play in the pedophile bowl.

People would seriously say that we would have brought 30-35 thousand to dallas when we could not get 30  thousand to come to a home game against memphis.

#7 Re: Southern Miss » Be glad we didn't get the Dallas Bowl invitation » 2018-12-28 09:00:17

AndreWhere wrote:
Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

I don’t understand how the lower bowls make money in reality. They try to convince the host city that it will generate millions for the local economy but that isn’t the case.

Now that I agree with. I always laugh at the "economic impact" figures for anything. Like most economics, they're just so speculative.

And who gets that impact? Oh, a bunch of people gassed up at a gas station owned by some dude from who knows where? And I'm supposed to benefit because just maybe some of it will go to the local government, whose services I hardly use anyway?

I will say that I've never gone to a USM bowl game and wondered how they were paying the bills. The 2000 GMAC Bowl, the 2002 Houston Bowl, the 2003 Liberty Bowl, last year's game, a couple of New Orleans Bowls... these were all well-attended events, often largely thanks to USM.

That's the overlooked strength of USM. It's ebbing away, but for a long time at least, people actually gave a shit.

I was at the 2002 houston bowl and I am not sure that it was well-attended largely thanks to usm.
Of the ~45,000 in attendance, it looked like we were outnumbered 2 to 1.

The 97 Liberty bowl we might have had 20-25 thousand out of ~50,000 which is sad because we couldn't get 25,000 to come to a home game against loserville that year.

#8 Re: Southern Miss » Apparently today is early signing day » 2018-12-20 13:57:42

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

We are now tied with UNT for best recruiting class in CUSA. We would rank 4th in the AAC according to Rivals. I find it funny that both UAB and FAU sit in the lower half of conference. It will be interesting to see how UAB does now that they have to play by the same recruiting rules going forward.

uab also graduates ~45.... ought to be fun

#9 Re: Southern Miss » The Prez on AD search. » 2018-12-07 08:39:11

99beers wrote:
skyvoyager wrote:
Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

Why does the AAC need to expand? They are in the final hour of finalizing their new media rights deal so why would they add another program that will take another percentage of the revenue pie?  The AAC has 8 of 12 full members in the top 50 Neilsen markets, Navy is also in the Top 50, and all are in the top 100. We are 160+. They are currently receiving 2 million per school per year with their expiring deal. Market size is no longer the primary factor but it is still a factor with their media rights holders.

UCF and The American are in a good spot, as they can negotiate their TV deal with their stock rising, where the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 and Big 12 have to wait another four years before they go back to the media rights negotiating table. Nobody, I mean nobody, knows how we will all consume sports content 5 years from today so this AAC media deal will be the last of its kind if they go forward with ESPN. They have zero need to add another program right now. Paying them 10 million in cash won't open the door either since thats small potatoes based on where they are expected to go to 4-5 million per school per year with their new tv deal.

but the aac is dead.... i know i read it on this board.

no asshole. You read dead end.

yep dead end.....over 2 million a year tv deal instead of $200,000, games on tv instead of internet streaming, bowl games
instead of staying home, games against ucf instead of florida international airport

#10 Re: Southern Miss » The Prez on AD search. » 2018-12-06 15:19:07

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
Fighting eagle wrote:

You have to make a play for the AAC. no matter your thoughts. better TV money,  better exposure, better competition, better bowls, and playing the old rivals again will bring some fans and some excitement back. You have to get in there. Otherwise the attendance and money will continue it's decline.

Why does the AAC need to expand? They are in the final hour of finalizing their new media rights deal so why would they add another program that will take another percentage of the revenue pie?  The AAC has 8 of 12 full members in the top 50 Neilsen markets, Navy is also in the Top 50, and all are in the top 100. We are 160+. They are currently receiving 2 million per school per year with their expiring deal. Market size is no longer the primary factor but it is still a factor with their media rights holders.

UCF and The American are in a good spot, as they can negotiate their TV deal with their stock rising, where the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 and Big 12 have to wait another four years before they go back to the media rights negotiating table. Nobody, I mean nobody, knows how we will all consume sports content 5 years from today so this AAC media deal will be the last of its kind if they go forward with ESPN. They have zero need to add another program right now. Paying them 10 million in cash won't open the door either since thats small potatoes based on where they are expected to go to 4-5 million per school per year with their new tv deal.

but the aac is dead.... i know i read it on this board.

#11 Re: Southern Miss » Just Dumb » 2018-11-30 18:57:57

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

UAB just gave Bill Clark a ridiculous extension which defines whats wrong with college football. 5 year extension that starts at $1.45 million and goes up to $1.65 million in the final year. Is he a good coach? Maybe..... Lets see how he does when he doesn't have the benefits the NCAA cut their program to relaunch. You lost to a bad Coastal Carolina team by 3 touchdowns. You have lost both of your final games by a combined score of 68-23. You needed life support for your seniors to beat a freshman USM team in OT at home. You average, at best, 20K a game and that is being extremely generous.

You are the definition of overrated and paying a coach that kind of money when you have minimal success and no support shows that your student fees are going to fund this failure. Good luck with that move......

Uabeeee has ~35 seniors and ~25 juniors....
The party is over

#12 Re: Southern Miss » Easy C University sent a plane to Hattiesburg today... » 2018-11-29 21:30:04

Ace Barker wrote:

Greenville/Spartanburg SC is around 2 1/2 hours from my house in Lilburn. I was there last Saturday at the Wofford game against Elon.

Greenville NC where ECU East Carolina is almost to the coast of NC. It’s a little over 400 miles from my house and the drive is not that easy. I have done it many times.

Ace...

Not an easy drive in the carrrrrrrr

#13 Re: Southern Miss » To The Top Talk - UAB Recap and La Tech Preview » 2018-11-15 10:26:44

Ace Barker wrote:
tg300 wrote:
admin wrote:

I put in a public records request after his contract expired and was told by a USM attorney that he didn't have a new contract yet. Since then, Hop go a raise and a bit more money to throw at assistants... enough money to get Dawson close to what the Kentucky severance was paying him if nobody else got a raise (which I doubt).

I can put in another inquiry if people care, but I suspect that he's only making marginally more than Billings is. The question is, who would pay him more? What's his resume? He flopped at Kentucky and then did kind of OK at USM?


Kind of like all the Bower rumors.

He is retired and plans to stay that way no matter how much you may like him to return.

Ace...

darn

#14 Re: Southern Miss » LFED 1-9. Want him back? LOL » 2018-11-12 16:07:56

99beers wrote:

LFED lost again today to Dook.  Program killer.  Some of the idiots would still want him back. 

Not me.  I want FREEZE!

https://247sports.com/college/north-car … 124525104/

#15 Re: Southern Miss » Marshall @ USM: the numbers » 2018-11-04 16:20:01

SoMs Eagle wrote:
Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
B&GBU wrote:

These are the numbers: USM 26 - Marshall 22. Tate didn't cost us the game, that's an improvement. Hope Jack is available to back him up. Play solid D, fair  O, cut out half of the boneheaded mistakes and it'd be just like us to foul things up for them.

Hop already told Tyler Cleveland postgame that as long as Jack is healthy he is getting the ball at UAB. He should...but needs to be on a very short leash with the turnovers....as in one and you are done.

Got to. Just have Brett come in and tell him the name of the game is move the chains. Don’t try to do to much by himself and he’ll be better.

Have the guy with the most int thrown in nfl history
Come in and tell him the name of the game....

#16 Re: Southern Miss » Monday Motivation » 2018-10-29 15:29:50

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

If you need some pick me up today, please enjoy the sack by Cordarro Law at the 3:40 mark......I think he tossed him roughly 8 yards......

You're Welcome......

https://youtu.be/8bvt13_BFAg

the duhon block on the johnson td is awesome

#17 Re: Southern Miss » USM @ Charlotte 2018 football game thread » 2018-10-27 18:48:46

Ace Barker wrote:
Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

This team needs to be viewed like our 2014 team. They make a ton of mistakes that cost us points. When you protect the ball you turn a 17-0 deficit on he road into a 3 point game. Don’t like it one bit but this is what we should all expect when you have a freshman squad taking the field against three/four year starters regardless of the name on the opponents helmet. Sucks but not surprised. Whatley did great considering what the score was and how little time was left. He deserves the ball next week since Jack can’t improve on protecting the ball.


Something “simular” to “you’re” comments in response to my question about recruiting.

“Yeah. Actually the junior and sophomore classes were light in the ass because Fedora had recruited to get outta here, and Monken had no choice but to try and win right away after the Ellis debacle.  The classes top heavy because of transfers and JuCo kids.  Jay had to even it up.  Heavy JuCo last year. So far, don’t think have a commit from JuCo kid this year, maybe one.”

Ace...

Sigh ... bower guys still butt hurt blaming current woes
on fedora....

#18 Re: Southern Miss » CFB Eliminator - this says all you need to know » 2018-10-25 09:35:53

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:

UCF also had a couple of sub 30K home games late in the season last year when they were top 20 including a conference matchup. Considering all the facts Sig stated above that should never happen......

I remember a youtube video years ago of two ucf fans traveling to every road game, tailgating, meeting other fans, etc.

The guys were very complimentary of the tailgating experience, the fans hospitality, good food.

Then the game started.... they commented on how quiet the fans were on the west side.  the loudest the stadium got was for a black....gold cheer  LOL

#19 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance woes: want your thoughts » 2018-10-24 15:46:21

Nugget's Ghostbuster wrote:
skyvoyager wrote:

and 3 weeks later 31k in attendance for loserville at Home coming

21K homecoming crowd in 2018......

we were 2-1 when we played memphis,  lost to tenn in the season opener

I forgot about that Tenn game......and I was one of those 108K there. So close......

Yes, we were like #13 for that game against Ragone, the official turning point in our programs history that day.....

Why not a sellout one should ask....

Definitely a turning point.  Cleveland wrote an article about that years ago.

Before that game, bower was 25-2 in the conference and 3 conference titles

after that game 38-20 in the conference with 1 title

#20 Re: Southern Miss » Attendance woes: want your thoughts » 2018-10-24 14:44:15

AndreWhere wrote:

Attendance is definitely down this year and last. NGB is saying it's always been a problem, and it has.

I thought we'd turned the corner in 2011, though. Had a couple of home games with 33,000 announced that year. Opened at home in front of 34,000 in 2012.

Then 2012 happened. Crowds were sparse for a while. The next time we had a winner to pull for was 2015, and by the end of the year home attendance was back to 30,000 and stayed around that number through 2016.

Then the bottom fell out. 22,761 was announced for the Kentucky game. It wasn't just some wackjob Gilbert accounting change, the stadium was empty.

Why? If you're going to quit on USM, wouldn't 2012-2013 be the time to do it? Why start coming to games again, watch a 9-win team and a 7-win team, travel down to the Superdome in large numbers to watch the bowl game, and then quit?

For that matter, why sit out our 2017 home schedule and then go to Shreveport, as so many people must have done? I swear there were more USM fans at that game than at our home opener this year.

Something weird is going on.

great points ... i did not realize the attendance bounced back to ~30K after the e12loss debacle

you are correct the 22k at the ky was brutal

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