LFed dumpster fires

99beers · #1

Check out the records....standout year in his 4th year at both schools. Then boom.... We went 0-12 and 1-11 the next two years after lfed left us a dumpster. He has go e 8-5 and now 1-8 his last two years at unc. Tells me something. He has had two really good years in 10 as a head coach. All smoke.

College Edit
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Southern Miss Golden Eagles (Conference USA) (2008–2011)
2008 Southern Miss 7–6 4–4 3rd (East) W New Orleans
2009 Southern Miss 7–6 5–3 3rd (East) L New Orleans
2010 Southern Miss 8–5 5–3 T–2nd (East) L Beef 'O' Brady's
2011 Southern Miss 12–2 6–2 1st (East) W Hawaii 19 20
Southern Miss: 34–19 20–12
North Carolina Tar Heels (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2012–present)
2012 North Carolina 8–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal)‡
2013 North Carolina 7–6 4–4 5th (Coastal) W Belk
2014 North Carolina 6–7 4–4 T–3rd (Coastal) L Quick Lane
2015 North Carolina 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Russell Athletic 15 15
2016 North Carolina 8–5 5–3 T–2nd (Coastal) L Sun
2017 North Carolina 1–8 0–6 (Coastal)
North Carolina: 41–33 26–20 ‡ Ineligible for ACC title, bowl game and Coaches' Poll
Total: 75–52

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AndreWhere · #2

What's going on at UNC does tend to vindicate the people who say Fedora left us a house of cards.

TheHeadEagle · #3

How does it vindicate that? He's done more at UNC while on probation than most of their coaches had done while NOT on probation. AND UNC isn't a football school. He's having one bad season....many believe due to players injured and the draft last year. He had over 20 players sit out a game two weeks ago. That's crazy.

Fedora did exactly what he was hired to do at USM....win a championship, he did while giving us the most wins in a season ever and then he left. we haven't won a championship (even in this watered down horrible league) since. 3 coaches since Fedora, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS

Hell, I hope Fedora is let go at UNC.....then maybe we can entertain the idea of bringing him back. There was more excitement in those 4 years with our program than in the last 20.

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tg300 · #4

TheHeadEagle wrote:

How does it vindicate that? He's done more at UNC while on probation than most of their coaches had done while NOT on probation. AND UNC isn't a football school. He's having one bad season....many believe due to players injured and the draft last year. He had over 20 players sit out a game two weeks ago. That's crazy.
Fedora did exactly what he was hired to do at USM....win a championship, he did while giving us the most wins in a season ever and then he left. we haven't won a championship (even in this watered down horrible league) since. 3 coaches since Fedora, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS
Hell, I hope Fedora is let go at UNC.....then maybe we can entertain the idea of bringing him back. There was more excitement in those 4 years with our program than in the last 20.

I tried to 'like' this but it won't let me.

Hell, even hop to the top could have won 6 games in 2012.

The players knew immediately EJ was a bust. It has taken almost 2 years for them to figure out hop is a bust.

AndreWhere · #5

TheHeadEagle wrote:

How does it vindicate that? He's done more at UNC while on probation than most of their coaches had done while NOT on probation. AND UNC isn't a football school. He's having one bad season....many believe due to players injured and the draft last year. He had over 20 players sit out a game two weeks ago. That's crazy.
Fedora did exactly what he was hired to do at USM....win a championship, he did while giving us the most wins in a season ever and then he left. we haven't won a championship (even in this watered down horrible league) since. 3 coaches since Fedora, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS
Hell, I hope Fedora is let go at UNC.....then maybe we can entertain the idea of bringing him back. There was more excitement in those 4 years with our program than in the last 20.

99beers already made the case. I don't completely buy it. I tend to think Fedora was exactly what we needed when we hired him, and that our error wasn't firing Bower, it was failing to bring the same aggression and enthusiasm to the 2012 coach search as we did in 2009.

tg300, Aquila

Eaglebird Humperdink · #6

AndreWhere wrote:

.... it was failing to bring the same aggression and enthusiasm to the 2012 coach search as we did in 2009.

I've never heard it put that way, but it makes a lot of sense. Two other considerations:

1. By the year 2010 in college athletics, you must have the common sense to know that a successful coach is going to attract attention, and it is very likely that an up-and-coming coach took a stepping stone job to get to next rung in his career plan. So, as a university athletic dept, you HAVE TO BE PREPARED for that eventuality. Always have a short list. Do not get caught without a plan.

2. It's simple. If you are pleased with the current success of the program, you hire or promote a coach who will use the momentum to continue right on down the path. You do not go out and bring in the complete opposite personality / skillset to replace the successful coach.
If the football program was in the shitter, and spiraling, THAT's when you look for a sea change type of coaching hire. Not when the team just had its best season ever.

USMstang, Aquila

99beers · #7

TheHeadEagle wrote:

How does it vindicate that? He's done more at UNC while on probation than most of their coaches had done while NOT on probation. AND UNC isn't a football school. He's having one bad season....many believe due to players injured and the draft last year. He had over 20 players sit out a game two weeks ago. That's crazy.
Fedora did exactly what he was hired to do at USM....win a championship, he did while giving us the most wins in a season ever and then he left. we haven't won a championship (even in this watered down horrible league) since. 3 coaches since Fedora, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS
Hell, I hope Fedora is let go at UNC.....then maybe we can entertain the idea of bringing him back. There was more excitement in those 4 years with our program than in the last 20.

Dooley era, when UNC basketball was even bigger........(Dean Smith)

Dooley last 6 years.

1972 North Carolina 11–1 6–0 1st W Sun 14 12
1973 North Carolina 4–7 1–5 6th
1974 North Carolina 7–5 4–2 T–2nd L Sun
1975 North Carolina 3–7–1 1–4–1 6th
1976 North Carolina 9–3 4–1 2nd L Peach
1977 North Carolina 8–3–1 5–0–1 1st L Liberty 14 17

42-26 record........

Your hero Lfed
2012 North Carolina 8–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal)‡
2013 North Carolina 7–6 4–4 5th (Coastal) W Belk
2014 North Carolina 6–7 4–4 T–3rd (Coastal) L Quick Lane
2015 North Carolina 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Russell Athletic 15 15
2016 North Carolina 8–5 5–3 T–2nd (Coastal) L Sun
2017 North Carolina 1–8 0–6 (Coastal)
North Carolina: 41–33

Stop trying to make him out as some great coach, he isn't, or wasn't. He never won a cusa championship. His records at usm were 7-6, 7-6, 8-5, and a 11-2. One really good year does not make a coach. He has had his run........nobody wants him anymore. Just proved out to be an average coach. Again, 1 really good year at UNC.....blah blah.......

USMstang · #8

99beers wrote:

Check out the records....standout year in his 4th year at both schools. Then boom.... We went 0-12 and 1-11 the next two years after lfed left us a dumpster. He has go e 8-5 and now 1-8 his last two years at unc. Tells me something. He has had two really good years in 10 as a head coach. All smoke.

There seems to be some validity there but I do think most any coach could have won 6-7 in 2012 other than the farce that was EJ. And I completely agree with the "have someone ready" mentality. Not just when you have an up-and-coming young coach but all the time. Always have a plan to move on a moments notice without missing a beat. What Martha did/allowed was pure buffoonery! Everyone involved displayed their idiocy.

Son of Dixie always referred to Fedora as "Big Cock Larry, the Snake Oil Salesman" because he was always parading around like he had the biggest dick in the room selling everyone on a pipe dream. I liked Larry but he was a bit excessive with: Pack the Rock, 30K for the Spring Game, ATTACK in all 3 phases of the game, etc...

Eaglebird Humperdink · #9

99beers wrote:

Stop trying to make him out as some great coach, he isn't, or wasn't. He never won a cusa championship..

Great coach or not, I think the Eagles won the C-USA championship in 2012 when we beat Kevin Sumlin's Houston Cougars, then ranked #6 nationally.

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CajunEagle · #10

Eaglebird Humperdink wrote:

99beers wrote:
Stop trying to make him out as some great coach, he isn't, or wasn't. He never won a cusa championship..
Great coach or not, I think the Eagles won the C-USA championship in 2012 when we beat Kevin Sumlin's Houston Cougars, then ranked #6 nationally.

No No No, you dang Fucktard.....(there....the trifecta). We never won a damn game in 2012. Never forget it. We won the C-USA championship in Houston in 2011. Although, we came close to winning one by losing to UTEP by one point in 2012.

USMstang

99beers · #11

CajunEagle wrote:

Eaglebird Humperdink wrote:
99beers wrote:
Stop trying to make him out as some great coach, he isn't, or wasn't. He never won a cusa championship..
Great coach or not, I think the Eagles won the C-USA championship in 2012 when we beat Kevin Sumlin's Houston Cougars, then ranked #6 nationally.

No No No, you dang Fucktard.....(there....the trifecta). We never won a damn game in 2012. Never forget it. We won the C-USA championship in Houston in 2011. Although, we came close to winning one by losing to UTEP by one point in 2012.

Yep, and we lost to UAB that year..........geeeezzzzzzzzzz. That was a great season, I'll give him credit there.

AndreWhere · #12

Fedora had the attitude that we needed and still need at USM. As a head coach at a P5 school with the advantages and challenges that entails, I have no idea how good he is compared to other coaches. But he was a good fit at USM. We just did everything 100% wrong after he left.

Aquila

tg300 · #13

Is he a world beater? No. Not by any stretch.

Is he 100x better than this shit show? Yes. 100x is underestimating the difference.

Would I take him back? Stupid question.

Eaglebird Humperdink · #14

tg300 wrote:

Would I take him back? Stupid question.

But you are the one that asked the question.

AndreWhere

Eaglebird Humperdink · #15

99beers wrote:

...a bunch of stuff about Bill Dooley......

Bill Dooley fact: While Dooley was a head coach at 3 different universities over a few decades, only 3 of Dooley's assistants landed head coaching jobs:

Jim Carmody
Jim Donnan
Jeff Bower

tg300 · #16

Eaglebird Humperdink wrote:

tg300 wrote:
Would I take him back? Stupid question.
But you are the one that asked the question.

Yes. Stupid to even type it.

My apologies.

keyboard kowboy · #17

I thought Bobby Collins coached for Dooley ?

keyboard kowboy · #18

Yup . Bobby Collins was Dooleys' offensive coordinator in 1971

Eaglebird Humperdink · #19

keyboard kowboy wrote:

Yup . Bobby Collins was Dooleys' offensive coordinator in 1971

Curse you, Wikipedia, and your unreliable user-edited content.

TheHeadEagle · #20

99beers wrote:

TheHeadEagle wrote:
How does it vindicate that? He's done more at UNC while on probation than most of their coaches had done while NOT on probation. AND UNC isn't a football school. He's having one bad season....many believe due to players injured and the draft last year. He had over 20 players sit out a game two weeks ago. That's crazy.
Fedora did exactly what he was hired to do at USM....win a championship, he did while giving us the most wins in a season ever and then he left. we haven't won a championship (even in this watered down horrible league) since. 3 coaches since Fedora, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS
Hell, I hope Fedora is let go at UNC.....then maybe we can entertain the idea of bringing him back. There was more excitement in those 4 years with our program than in the last 20.
Dooley era, when UNC basketball was even bigger........(Dean Smith)
Dooley last 6 years.

1972 North Carolina 11–1 6–0 1st W Sun 14 12
1973 North Carolina 4–7 1–5 6th
1974 North Carolina 7–5 4–2 T–2nd L Sun
1975 North Carolina 3–7–1 1–4–1 6th
1976 North Carolina 9–3 4–1 2nd L Peach
1977 North Carolina 8–3–1 5–0–1 1st L Liberty 14 17
42-26 record........
Your hero Lfed
2012 North Carolina 8–4 5–3 T–1st (Coastal)‡
2013 North Carolina 7–6 4–4 5th (Coastal) W Belk
2014 North Carolina 6–7 4–4 T–3rd (Coastal) L Quick Lane
2015 North Carolina 11–3 8–0 1st (Coastal) L Russell Athletic 15 15
2016 North Carolina 8–5 5–3 T–2nd (Coastal) L Sun
2017 North Carolina 1–8 0–6 (Coastal)
North Carolina: 41–33
Stop trying to make him out as some great coach, he isn't, or wasn't. He never won a cusa championship. His records at usm were 7-6, 7-6, 8-5, and a 11-2. One really good year does not make a coach. He has had his run........nobody wants him anymore. Just proved out to be an average coach. Again, 1 really good year at UNC.....blah blah.......

Uh, you compared Dooleys LAST 6 seasons with Fedora's first 6????? WHY??? Shouldn't you compare Dooleys first 6 seasons with Fedora's first 6???? that would make more sense. Try again.

And you said "he never won a CUSA championship?" Did you really just say that?????? You've lost all credibility with that one statement.

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